SO I got the Drum Takes Indie Rock refill.
I've watched the two tutorials on copying over the tracks and devices into a new Reason session and messed around with trying to arrange a song.
There's alot of nuance in crafting a drum track for a song from these. I thought it might be helpful to start a tips and tricks thread on getting the most out of these awesome refills
I play and record live drums, but these drum take refills looked so interesting to me that I bought one.
On a general note- I'm very auditory in my approach to arranging, and looking at numbers and blocks bums me out. So in general, I'm trying to do the least amount of calculating as possible. I like to look at things in whole pictures- so, I try to stay in a more big picture zoom level until I have to zoom in.
For me, crafting a song from these bars of drums is challenging because I only hear and feel changes- I don't think about how many times I do something before I change to a different part of the song- I just know it and do it.
So- arranging songs like this is really challenging me- but in today's world you have to know how to do this stuff- I have to know what bars and grids are supposed to look like for the typical song structures I write in, etc...
I've taken some time to go back and review, bars beats, ticks, measures, etc..
1) I had to take a moment to think about how to lengthen a verse block without including the little cymbal/tom fill in the middle of the block.
So if you want to take a 2 bar verse section and make it 4 or 5, you have options.
This particular song I'm arranging is more Fleetwood Mac-ish and I wanted the verse drums parts to be not that busy- so I had to figure out how to "remove" the little middle of the block fills and crashes to just keep the straight forward beats going until I'm ready for a fill or crash.
Somehow, using the sampled kit and inserting a crash just doesn't do it for me- and of course that's because when I do that, none of the other things that would be happening for real when I played that crash are happening. in other words, if go to hit a cymbal as a part of the fill, different things will be happening on the kick, etc... other than the straight beat that's been playing.
Besides the actual difference in hits, ie what you are doing when you do a fill and cymbal hit, there's also the subtle tension in the beats leading up to the fill where you know deep down a fill is coming- you can predict the fill is coming as a listener because there are subtle changes in the hats and velocity of things leading up to the fills-
SO- HOW DO YOU GUYS DEAL WITH THAT, hahah
I've watched the two tutorials on copying over the tracks and devices into a new Reason session and messed around with trying to arrange a song.
There's alot of nuance in crafting a drum track for a song from these. I thought it might be helpful to start a tips and tricks thread on getting the most out of these awesome refills
I play and record live drums, but these drum take refills looked so interesting to me that I bought one.
On a general note- I'm very auditory in my approach to arranging, and looking at numbers and blocks bums me out. So in general, I'm trying to do the least amount of calculating as possible. I like to look at things in whole pictures- so, I try to stay in a more big picture zoom level until I have to zoom in.
For me, crafting a song from these bars of drums is challenging because I only hear and feel changes- I don't think about how many times I do something before I change to a different part of the song- I just know it and do it.
So- arranging songs like this is really challenging me- but in today's world you have to know how to do this stuff- I have to know what bars and grids are supposed to look like for the typical song structures I write in, etc...
I've taken some time to go back and review, bars beats, ticks, measures, etc..
1) I had to take a moment to think about how to lengthen a verse block without including the little cymbal/tom fill in the middle of the block.
So if you want to take a 2 bar verse section and make it 4 or 5, you have options.
This particular song I'm arranging is more Fleetwood Mac-ish and I wanted the verse drums parts to be not that busy- so I had to figure out how to "remove" the little middle of the block fills and crashes to just keep the straight forward beats going until I'm ready for a fill or crash.
Somehow, using the sampled kit and inserting a crash just doesn't do it for me- and of course that's because when I do that, none of the other things that would be happening for real when I played that crash are happening. in other words, if go to hit a cymbal as a part of the fill, different things will be happening on the kick, etc... other than the straight beat that's been playing.
Besides the actual difference in hits, ie what you are doing when you do a fill and cymbal hit, there's also the subtle tension in the beats leading up to the fill where you know deep down a fill is coming- you can predict the fill is coming as a listener because there are subtle changes in the hats and velocity of things leading up to the fills-
SO- HOW DO YOU GUYS DEAL WITH THAT, hahah